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You can't just choose their relationships ahead of time, though. They're people, they'll feel however they feel

That makes sense I’ll do that

Gm

did i accidentally got possession before narration? and if i did is it something to worry about?

5:51 PM

i was trying to sleep tonight and when im just about to i noticed both of my hands moving on its own

5:52 PM

and the forearms started to move on their own after that

5:52 PM

I asked my tulpa but she didnt give a concrete answer whether it is her or not

5:53 PM

the movement are non-sensical, it is as if she is trying to get used to my hands

5:53 PM

and my hands felt really iffy after that for a long time

5:56 PM

and the problem is that my time spent with my tulpa was greatly reduced because i am taking extra classes, communication with her is especially hard. Most of the time i do not get a response and when i do, it felt more instinctual than something logical and from a sentient being. I am not sure whether she can hear me

5:56 PM

because of our communication problems i dont know if learning possession so quick is good

5:57 PM

i tried a few narration guides but its not working like when i first got into tulpas

this is all wholly from my perspective of someone who isnt a tulpa expert but not a beginner either but ill say what i personally think, feel free to take everything w/ a grain of salt

and if i did is it something to worry about?

this depends on how seriously you take it. do you personally think its bad that she is attempting to possess? do you want to interpret what happened as being from her? (it could be a little iffy that she did it out of nowhere and im assuming without your permission)

I asked my tulpa but she didnt give a concrete answer whether it is her or not

she could have not done it and it mightve just been a silly sleep thing? im saying this because it seems like she isnt sure herself, but this depends on how you want to interpret the situation.

the movement are non-sensical, it is as if she is trying to get used to my hands and my hands felt really iffy after that for a long time

this definitely seems like possession, when i was first practicing possession with an old headmate she also had slow, awkward movements and afterwards my hands would feel weird

it felt more instinctual than something logical and from a sentient being.

personally, i think youre doubting her. when i was first creating a tulpa she also sounded alot like me, but i kept trying to communicate with her anyways and she slowly developed

after i am awake i found some guides and tried it twice

6:08 PM

both attemps recreated the same thing i had when im trying to sleep

6:09 PM

i am fully awake in both attempts

6:09 PM

i still cant be sure im on my thirdd

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both attemps recreated the same thing i had when im trying to sleep

then i think that affirms she was possessing. i dont really know how you could manage your time better to help spend more time with her, but while youre busy you could start talking to her about what youre doing or showing her things? you dont always have to go to headspace and spend dedicated time with her, i rarely went to headspace when i was developing my old headmate

6:15 PM

i think any little thing even related to speech with you tulpa can help no matter how long youre talking to her

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did i accidentally got possession before narration? and if i did is it something to worry about?

So im not alone in this stuff heh. Actually getting possesion before vocality etc is not something bad (if it can really be counted as smt bad), like first responses from mine tulpa were by posessing my hand and moving fingers and thats how actually we were communicating firstly, now we actually got a bit problems with vocality but by my experience I could say it just normal. (If im wrong at smt please correct me)

its nothing to worry about and can be used to communicate if you are having trouble otherwise

6:43 PM

and tulpa answers at first feel like just reflex answers with no thought behind them, so that's completely normal too

6:44 PM

they contradict themselves and can be nonsensical and not thought through, but it gets better over time the more you talk to each other (edited)

6:46 PM

if it makes sense, think of how you tend to think of an answer to some complex question. You probably think about it from different perspectives in your head, and formulate an answer after that. The tulpa doing the same is going to feel very similar and that's how you get answers that have thought behind them (edited)

6:46 PM

you will "hear" and feel their thought process

6:47 PM

letting your tulpa do a little monologue as an answer as they think of an answer "out loud" to you is how we got past single word answers

So like my tulpa wane just told me that there have been like others in my head but he didn't want to spook me out is this normal like I think I got a bunch of walk ins

9:01 PM

Can you have walk-ins and not realize

I've never had a walk-in, but I think the healthiest way to think of walk-ins are as hypothetical tulpas you could make real by intentionally acknowledging they're real

Oh and I always hear random conversations in my head it might be them but I've brushed it off

similarly, they can be dismissed by saying "it's just an intrusive thought"

And this random person called velvet took control once

it is normal to have a running dialogue in your head with any number of participants, but assigning those voices an identity that isn't "you" is something you have to decide to do

blanka

I've never had a walk-in, but I think the healthiest way to think of walk-ins are as hypothetical tulpas you could make real by intentionally acknowledging they're real

Interesting

KIZO!

Can you have walk-ins and not realize

ive seen this happen alot but for people who have did/osdd/udd? but yeah if you dont want them ignoring them will work

blanka

it is normal to have a running dialogue in your head with any number of participants, but assigning those voices an identity that isn't "you" is something you have to decide to do

Yeah maybe I should stop

9:03 PM

I don't control them though

Remember, you are ultimately in control of your own mind. If you do not feel in control, that is a matter for a mental health professional, and tulpamancers on the internet can offer little help

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this is a sign of something beyond tulpamancy if you truly believe theyre uncontrollable

savedlatin

ive seen this happen alot but for people who have did/osdd/udd? but yeah if you dont want them ignoring them will work

They keep telling me I'm a system but it's probably intrusive thoughts even wane himself told me but yk how tulpas trick you sometimes so I simply don't believe it

blanka

Remember, you are ultimately in control of your own mind. If you do not feel in control, that is a matter for a mental health professional, and tulpamancers on the internet can offer little help

Yeah

9:05 PM

He's probably meaning it in another way because like tulpas technically count as systems (edited)

controversial opinion warning I think it'd be more accurate to say you are that control over your own mind--the "will," so to speak

He has a history of tricking too

KIZO!

He's probably meaning it in another way because like tulpas technically count as systems (edited)

singlets are systems, too. just a system of one

blanka

singlets are systems, too. just a system of one

Yeah isn't that IFS

No idea, I haven't done any actual research on IFS, but I'm pretty sure that's the tool we're using in therapy now

It uses parts and heals those parts

Not inherently.

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Reply to: Yeah isn't that IFS

Parts work?

IFS uses a plural model to define parts and work on healing them and promoting cooperation between them. I think what Blank Neue means by "singlets are a system of one" is exactly what he says.

9:10 PM

IE: I don't think he is referencing any specific medical treatment or belief, but I could be wrong.

No, you're right Iota

9:11 PM

like

9:12 PM

if we define a list as a sequence of elements between two square brackets, then [1,2,3] is a list, and so is [1]

eh i'm not in the mood to repeat all the script again

you need a copypasta at this point @KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

i need like 10 different sets of pdfs and just attach it

if you send me the raw text I'll pipe it through pandoc and LaTeX so they'll be nice and pretty :)

How long does it normally take for your tulpa to talk back

like a lot of tulpa stuff, unfortunately the answer is between "it depends" and "your mileage may vary"

11:31 PM

but the more you put in the more you get out

^ and consistency beats intensity, doing it regularly will bring better results than doing a really huge session once in a while

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don’t get discouraged if it takes a few tries

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So im not alone in this stuff heh. Actually getting possesion before vocality etc is not something bad (if it can really be counted as smt bad), like first responses from mine tulpa were by posessing my hand and moving fingers and thats how actually we were communicating firstly, now we actually got a bit problems with vocality but by my experience I could say it just normal. (If im wrong at smt please correct me)

Huh... that's not the experience I usually hear about early possessions. I guess it can be a good thing or a bad thing. Some find it hurts their sense of self to possess that young, but if it's not hurting you, why not?

KIZO!

Can you have walk-ins and not realize

No As Blank said, you have control over your own mind. It's possible to create seemingly sentient entities on the spot, but you ultimately get to choose to accept them or not. Additionally, you won't switch if you don't want to

I didn't want to switch it was a random one

How do you switch?

2:13 AM

(I'll be back in a bit, but please feel free to reply)

So like when we usually switch it's like the person in the front just goes in the back then the person who you wanna switch with starts talking more and the wallah that's the switch

2:15 AM

This time I can't even recall when the switch happened or if it was gradually

2:17 AM

And I wasn't really talking

Oh, I see. With that style of switching you can switch accidentally really easily. You can always switch back. If you don't like your switching style, you can always change it. For example, you can say that a switch is only legitimate if the person who wants to switch in asks the current person switched-in for consent. Even with that simple rule, the brain will make it work. You don't need a slow complicated ritual like we do ^^ (edited)

Can you have walk-ins and not realize

@KIZO! - jump let-in*

Half serious question: Do you peeps celebrate the day your tulpas formed; like a birthday?

Some people do. I don’t because I keep forgetting the dates

Yeah, we do

I've forgotten the date, but I used to do small celebrations

it's also known as celebration into existence or something like that

given how uncertain the first time i really talked to kaybee is, i don't remember her birthday unfortunately

3:21 PM

but if i'm reading her right, she doesn't mind if i celebrate it on our transiversary (march 3rd)

༺【𝐒𝐔𝐍𝐋𝐈𝐓 𝐃𝐔𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐒𝐓: 𝐀𝐙𝐀𝐙𝐄𝐋】༻

Half serious question: Do you peeps celebrate the day your tulpas formed; like a birthday?

We have tried doing birthday stuff, but that got put on hold given our mental health. I and Gray didn't have good birthdays this year

the alive day

So, when attempting to switch, what exactly are we supposed to be doing I am imagining my form in the headspace and trying to ignore my actual body’s senses, but Yellow’s clueless on what she’s supposed to be doing and so am I

You imagine yourself in your tulpa's place (in the "back", you could say), while your tulpa imagines herself in the host's position (the "front")

2:34 AM

you mentally switch roles, and then roll with it until it feels like it's worked, I suppose.

So, when attempting to switch, what exactly are we supposed to be doing I am imagining my form in the headspace and trying to i...

@Sploda - jump You Can Do It secret technique: you already know how to switch

2:34 AM

It has nothing to do with ignoring your body's senses or going through a step-by-step process

Ask Leiko/Kitkat tomorrow I guess

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I feel like we’re already getting close even though we only started tulpamancy 17 days ago

Ultimately the tulpa's gotta do it and all you have to do is make room

2:36 AM

I'm switched in rn and all that happened was I wanted to socialize so I'm typing now

Well, we’ve just gotta keep trying until it works then I guess

2:37 AM

Right

Host has to make room, tulpa takes control

2:38 AM

that is

2:38 AM

not a good explanation but I am not kitkat

I think I understand

Sploda

So, when attempting to switch, what exactly are we supposed to be doing I am imagining my form in the headspace and trying to ignore my actual body’s senses, but Yellow’s clueless on what she’s supposed to be doing and so am I

As others have said, switching is just trading places. If the symbolism is overcomplicating things for you, just forget it and do what you think makes sense. You guys are so new that odds are good you'll figure it out on your own

2:39 AM

If you don't have the foggiest idea of what's happening after that, you can try a symbolism-focused technique or read a switching guide